View Full Version : full fuse temp for SP?
Brian Gingras
10-27-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm looking at all the glass scrap and thinking of some fusing projects...does anyone fuse sp87 and misc colors? if so, at what temps?
thanks
Jon Myers
10-27-2007, 03:44 PM
fusings from SP and our typical colors tend to work best in a The Bride Stripped Bare by her Bachelors, Even , sort of way (http://www.beatmuseum.org/duchamp/bride.html)
Brian Gingras
10-27-2007, 04:15 PM
huh? what? that was cryptic!
Wes Hunting
10-27-2007, 05:29 PM
Da Da is as Da Da does.
Steve Stadelman
10-27-2007, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by Brian Gingras
huh? what? that was cryptic!
All will be revealed when you meet Jon!
Doug Chaussee
10-27-2007, 07:35 PM
Brian,
1500-1550 works well for us. We let the scrap soak at that temp until all of the edges are rounded over and smooth and then turn it down. I use a small electric fusing oven (less than one cubic foot interior space) and a kiln shelf with feldspar wash. So far the scrap comes out to some pretty neat pieces.
Steven O'Day
10-28-2007, 09:21 AM
The Bride Stripped Bare by her Bachelors, Even
hahaha
But a great work, more pics here
DADA (http://154.ca/dada/glass.html)
R. Scott Johnson
10-29-2007, 01:34 AM
how do you avoid devitrification? i've had lots of devit with SP.
Pete VanderLaan
10-29-2007, 07:36 AM
SP is not a good fusing glass. A Borax wash helps but is not engineered as a fusing or casting glass.
Jon Myers
10-29-2007, 02:35 PM
What I'm saying is that even if you convince yourself that devit is a design element you will also need to convince yourself that you wanted to glue the 7,000,000 bits your panel cracked into together to make the masterpiece you were working on. (you were working on a masterpiece weren't you?) Conversly you could make your casting really thick and hope the clear bits hold the colored bits together and call the cracks flares and gush over the way they transport light to the interior of the piece. Then cover the backside with that epoxy stuff that keeps stuff from falling apart when it breaks. And Pray.
Jon Myers
10-29-2007, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by R. Scott Johnson
how do you avoid devitrification? i've had lots of devit with SP.
you use spectrum nuggets
Jon Myers
10-29-2007, 02:53 PM
A little less smart assed answer would be that you could use fused Spruce to do things that require "glass" but probably not "Glass". for instance you could project video on it and it would work fine. You could make a statue out of it that represents the plight of the american worker in a post 9-11 context and it would be fine. ('specialy if you dipped it in crude oil, lit it on fire and video taped the explosion to project on the left over pile.... you see where I'm headed) (I'm calling that idea btw)
Steve Stadelman
10-29-2007, 03:53 PM
Dude, I am Rolling on the Ground!
Brian Gingras
10-29-2007, 05:28 PM
well at least I got an answer out of this thread gone awry :) The plan was to simply fuse some scraps and see what we get, not planning to fuse panels and a little devit can be cut out if needed...if it goes that wrong, then maybe we will use some Spectrum next time :)
Pete VanderLaan
10-29-2007, 07:32 PM
Jon, you clearly have a future teaching in Art school. ( I am , like so sorry to inform you of this...) Nice use of the negative space!.
Pete VanderLaan
10-29-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Brian Gingras
well at least I got an answer out of this thread gone awry :) The plan was to simply fuse some scraps and see what we get, not planning to fuse panels and a little devit can be cut out if needed...if it goes that wrong, then maybe we will use some Spectrum next time :)
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And we forgot to mention sandblasting.
Scott Dunahee
10-29-2007, 09:23 PM
Jon is right about fusing up the spectrum nuggets though. I've been fusing up tiles from salvage glass from the knockoff bin to have some rollup practice blanks without having a lot of time into it. They are coming out GREAT with no clean up other than grinding the edges. Very clear and very clean. I'm fusing up cane scraps. No devit whatsoever. I was actually shocked at how clean they came out for 15 minutes of prep on the way out the door one night.
Jon is also funny. Sorry I missed you when I was in Oregon this summer. Your wife is nice though.
BSD
Brian Gingras
01-20-2008, 08:44 AM
This a follow up form my original question. We finally had a project that needed fused components. We blew rondels with 2 rolls of #2 on the outside, quick open, non annealed. Broken and set pieces into panels. Kiln ran at 350/hr to 1000, rapid to 1400, soak 15 minutes at 1400, crash cool to 950, soak and and drop at 200/hr to room temp. The results...smooth edges, full fuse, zero devit on both runs. this is using Sp87 w/er. Each panel has copper wire fused into it for hanging.
The kiln shelf was on stilts, and we used fusing paper.
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