View Full Version : Name this glass color......
Brian Graham
06-30-2008, 10:52 AM
I believe it's a gold based color. Clearly shows ruby - straw - green - blue.
If it was just ruby and straw, I believe that it was called amberina.
I acquired about 100 pounds of this stuff.....
Should I / can it be heat treated all to ruby?
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Pete VanderLaan
06-30-2008, 11:03 AM
It looks to be a strike ruby made with cadmium/ selenium/ sulphur and has a trace of cobalt in it.
Brian Graham
06-30-2008, 11:18 AM
Interesting. Wouldn't the cobalt still overpower the striking colors?
In Weyl on page 387, it talks about "Spoiled Ruby Glass" - describes a spoiled gold ruby that on special heat treatment in a gradient furnace went from ruby to blue with shades of yellow and green between.
Pete VanderLaan
06-30-2008, 01:04 PM
I don't know about a gold ruby doing that. A copper ruby certainly will. And, no, if the cobalt is just the right balance, it will be overpowered by the ruby strike.
Brian Graham
06-30-2008, 09:03 PM
Thanks Pete. I'll post results if I am able to make anything interesting out of it.
Pete VanderLaan
07-01-2008, 06:14 AM
your strike should come on the punty. Rework the upper section repeatedly.
Terry Crider
07-01-2008, 10:29 AM
Brian,
If that is from Summit Art Glass --- it was made to strike very easy.
Russ struck the pressed pieces on a glazer.
If you make more than one gather on the pipe --- the first gather will
likely strike all red.
A mold (press or blow) will give you the best results.
If you are doing off-hand work it will likely be mostly red with a little
blue at the bottom.
Terry
Terry Crider
07-01-2008, 10:33 AM
P.S.
Russ called the color "Rubina" --- as did the old Cambridge Glass Co.
when they made in the 1920/1930's
Terry
David Patchen
07-01-2008, 01:00 PM
That's way cool. Is it available in rod?
Brian Graham
07-01-2008, 02:55 PM
Yes it is Summit Art Glass Terry. I found a local dealer that was sitting on tons of seconds and mismatched pieces - told me she was through selling it and asked me to take it all away. I had been getting cullet from Russ for several years, but was never able to acquire this particular color.
Do you happen to know what went into the batch?
Pete VanderLaan
07-02-2008, 05:52 AM
That's way cool. Is it available in rod?
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It would not work as a rod by its very nature
Terry Crider
07-02-2008, 08:07 AM
Brian,
Pete aready gave you the colorants --- athough Russ didn't add any
sulfur as such --- what ever ended up in the melt came from somewhere
else.
Terry
Pete VanderLaan
07-02-2008, 10:34 AM
The sulfur usually comes in the form of Cadmium sulphide. Cadmium by itself in a melt is colorless. The sulfur makes it kick yellow. Sulfur is not really your friend in a cad sel melt and a balance of cad ox and cad sulphide makes the best colors. They are less gassy.
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