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Brian Blanthorn
07-28-2008, 03:54 AM
Ur all invited to the private viewing

The last 4 R specificaly Lapland related

Sally saw is first

Wax up is in wrong order ( or was )

Please report any errors or weirdness, thanks

Please keep this secret for a week or until I releace it Globaly as we have potential bandwith expences 2 sort out

Thanks 2 all who have enabled the technological inovations 2 have developed

http://www.blanthorn.com/videos.htm

Brian

Lap Labs inc.

Ben Solwitz
07-28-2008, 12:18 PM
Thanks for letting us in on some of your process, I always love to see how other people work. Looks like you've got quite a cold shop built there, that diamond saw is awesome. I assume the scratching problem on the reciprolap is from glass powder building up? I've never used one myself so I don't know much about the process but I've had problems with extra bits of glass causing scratches on the flat lap.

The videos are sort of large, I don't know much about encoding WMVs but there is probably a way to reduce the size a bit. I know that DivX movies look pretty good at 700mb for an hour and a half which is a little over 1mbit/s whereas your current videos are about 3.8mbit/s. It would certainly help with the bandwidth costs if you could reduce the size a bit, especially if a lot of people watch them once they are in general release.

Brian Blanthorn
07-28-2008, 12:48 PM
Thanks for letting us in on some of your process, I always love to see how other people work. Looks like you've got quite a cold shop built there, that diamond saw is awesome. I assume the scratching problem on the reciprolap is from glass powder building up? I've never used one myself so I don't know much about the process but I've had problems with extra bits of glass causing scratches on the flat lap.

The videos are sort of large, I don't know much about encoding WMVs but there is probably a way to reduce the size a bit. I know that DivX movies look pretty good at 700mb for an hour and a half which is a little over 1mbit/s whereas your current videos are about 3.8mbit/s. It would certainly help with the bandwidth costs if you could reduce the size a bit, especially if a lot of people watch them once they are in general release.

The Lap scraching was complex n multiplicity of things nefariously conspiring together n I was having 2 flat off n maintain tolerances of 0.05mm ( on Rose n Rosie ) which I was able 2 do but having struggled 2 reach this state of Nervana I realised that it was not a goal I was easly capable of in the comfort n privacy of my own home on a daily bacis

The upside down Lapping is more forgiving n there R few arguments n blame thses days

Incidentaly

4 those who have journied with me the latest Lapland update with the upside down Lapping -- is a sponge jacket on the wax block ( so I got a lake ) therby increasing + recycaling the cerium ( U cannot have 2 much in my humble oppinion )


Byeeeeeeeeeeeeee Brian

Drew Fritts
07-28-2008, 02:26 PM
Thanks for the videos, they're very interesting to watch.

I've seen a video of Toland Sand's operation and he uses plaster instead of wax. Is there a distinct advantage to the wax over plaster? It seems like it would be much easier to remove the pieces, but it's obviously not reusable like the wax is.

Drew <+><

Brian Blanthorn
07-28-2008, 04:02 PM
Thanks for the videos, they're very interesting to watch.

I've seen a video of Toland Sand's operation and he uses plaster instead of wax. Is there a distinct advantage to the wax over plaster? It seems like it would be much easier to remove the pieces, but it's obviously not reusable like the wax is.

Drew <+><

Took me some 25 years or so 2 figure out wax was a good part of the problem, smoothig was Ok assuming U got a good flatness 0.05

But as U moved on2 the polish, as U got such a big area in neumerous peices any slight undulations ( in the polish pad ) n the glass moves in the wax n then problems R compounded ( as well as this the very nature of the machine ensures a high edge / low center ) then U got no chance of a polish, as not all areas with in 0.05 of surface

Hence the reverse polish with small polishing head eliminating such accurcy

Now the wax is a good flexible system mixed amorphic shapes + sizes of glass can all B done together

If U got 1 peice of glass only or smaller separate peices ( loose ) then this not quite flat senario is not so problematic

So yes plaster is probably better but then U got likely contamination / waste n removal problems

Brian

Brian Blanthorn
07-28-2008, 04:14 PM
Thanks for the videos, they're very interesting to watch.

I've seen a video of Toland Sand's operation and he uses plaster instead of wax. Is there a distinct advantage to the wax over plaster? It seems like it would be much easier to remove the pieces, but it's obviously not reusable like the wax is.

Drew <+><

I had a look at yr web site interesting work

Have U considered trying on glaze colours / glass enamels /
body stains ( from ceramics ) + a flux like borax U can control the ripping especialy in the higher fired materials ( more flux is less ripping ) as a glue we use gum arabic

Brian

Pete VanderLaan
07-28-2008, 04:20 PM
Plaster gets to be pretty hard to remove from a lap once it suctions down but it really works well.

Brian Blanthorn
07-28-2008, 04:27 PM
Plaster gets to be pretty hard to remove from a lap once it suctions down but it really works well.

U could plastic / wire brush it prior 2 lapping so glass was proud

But personaly I hate plaster I think I must have had a bad experiance with it in a previous life or lives or mayb its a future life

Brian

Drew Fritts
07-28-2008, 10:18 PM
I had a look at yr web site interesting work

Have U considered trying on glaze colours / glass enamels /
body stains ( from ceramics ) + a flux like borax U can control the ripping especialy in the higher fired materials ( more flux is less ripping ) as a glue we use gum arabic

Brian

Thanks. I make my own glass enamels using a jar mill, and my binder is a ceramic painting medium that burns off. I'm not sure what you mean by "ripping," but since all of my designs are encased in clear, I don't mix flux into the enamels because I don't need them to form a glossy surface of their own.


An interesting side note about your work... I've looked at your site several times in the past but I had no concept of the size of your work until I saw you working the pieces in the video. The name "pebble" made me think of paperweights or much smaller pieces than many of them are. There's just no way to discern size from your photographs.

Drew <+><

Brian Blanthorn
07-29-2008, 03:03 AM
Thanks. I make my own glass enamels using a jar mill, and my binder is a ceramic painting medium that burns off. I'm not sure what you mean by "ripping," but since all of my designs are encased in clear, I don't mix flux into the enamels because I don't need them to form a glossy surface of their own.


An interesting side note about your work... I've looked at your site several times in the past but I had no concept of the size of your work until I saw you working the pieces in the video. The name "pebble" made me think of paperweights or much smaller pieces than many of them are. There's just no way to discern size from your photographs.

Drew <+><

Sizes r on second page but I do C ur point, it is a problem

But we have tryed stuff like fruit 2 give size but looked just stupid

So hence the vids

I think we may have a larger work section may B called

This Work is Reay Big Honest

or someting




Ripping / breaking up of the colour

http://www.blanthorn.com/bowls/bowls_1980_1989/portfolio_bowl_6_large.htm

This is a charicture of much of my work although not very clear in most of the pics varies from minute dry clay like to very big inch like rips n ecentuates any flowing of glass

The technology is interesting as it can B controled infinately

2 things first a high fired material which is not runny at temp then add a flux to that 2 make runny ( we use body stain + a low fire enamel )

We add gum arabic n paint it on more flux = more runny

If less flux as glass moves the colour cant so it rips up, but if U use it no flux its acts as a seporator

Brian

Drew Fritts
07-29-2008, 08:09 AM
Ripping / breaking up of the colour

http://www.blanthorn.com/bowls/bowls_1980_1989/portfolio_bowl_6_large.htm




Oh, now I understand. Thanks.

Drew <+><