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Dave Bross
12-16-2011, 01:45 PM
I was talking to Tom Fuhrman this week (he was going to post this but probably got busy) and he told me the latest elements for his crucible kiln were no longer Kanthal but some french company with a factory here in the USA.

Also mentioned was that Kanthal may be having quality problems. His supplier wouldn't give up the name of the french wire company so I suggested we turn everyone here loose on this and see how much is true, if anyone knows who the French supplier is, etc. etc.

Tom Ash
12-16-2011, 04:59 PM
www.rescal.com

Franklin Sankar
12-16-2011, 05:06 PM
Wow, this board is more powerful than the CIA.
Franklin

Pete VanderLaan
12-16-2011, 05:21 PM
Now Dave just has to go learn French.

Dave Bross
12-16-2011, 09:39 PM
Je ne parle pas franšais....in spite of many years attempting to teach me in high school.

Fortunately, there's a little "English" button top right.

Thanks Tom!

Here's the USA distributors:

http://www.arcelormittal.com/stainlessandnickelalloys/en/agencies/united-states.html

Anyone used them?

Available anywhere in small quantity?

Tom Fuhrman
12-17-2011, 09:43 AM
Dave: thanks for the followup.
according to their specs, they rate their wire at 2400+ , much higher than the Kanthal A-1. People I had talked with had run their kiln at 2400 for a week while melting and blowing boro cullet. This may just change the wire melter adventures and trials and tribulations. . Supposedly these elements have a much longer life. I'll see, just put some in last week.

Franklin Sankar
12-17-2011, 06:14 PM
I bet you can really test them elements real good Tom.
Mittal makes steel rods, where is the wires?

Franklin

Pete VanderLaan
12-18-2011, 07:51 AM
Dave: thanks for the followup.
according to their specs, they rate their wire at 2400+ , much higher than the Kanthal A-1. People I had talked with had run their kiln at 2400 for a week while melting and blowing boro cullet. This may just change the wire melter adventures and trials and tribulations. . Supposedly these elements have a much longer life. I'll see, just put some in last week.
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Maybe so, but the crucibles won't last long at those temps at all.

Franklin Sankar
12-18-2011, 05:05 PM
The problem I had with wires is when I ramp up to 2300 for bottles it kills the wires. If Tom wires can go to 2300 and not die good. , Just when we have a good thing going the crucible starts acting up.
Thanks for saving the crucibles Pete. Not many honest sales people out there.
Maybe you can qualify to be the next president now.
Franklin

Pete VanderLaan
12-18-2011, 05:37 PM
I totally qualify.. I'm going to have everyone who disagrees with me arrested if I get in to office. I promise a crucible in every pot.

Brice Turnbull
05-30-2012, 11:11 AM
Please help! I'm losing enthusiasm on this stuff...

Who distributes the French wire?

I've been trying to get a source for some months now with no luck.

I must be looking at the wrong company or asking the wrong questions.

On the third attempt (last week) this was the reply which came to me today...

--------------------email to me from ArcelorMittal---------------

Hi Brice,
I received a response back from our Director of Wire Sales...He stated that we do not produce resistance wire (also the quantity you want would have been too small.)
He did provide a couple suggestions that may be able to help out..

Industrial Steel and Wire here in Chicago 1-800-767-0408 or Interwire in NY 914-273-6510

Sorry we could not have been of more help.

Good luck with your search........

Tony Bruno\Marketing
ArcelorMittal Long Carbon North America
3300 Dickey Road, East Chicago, IN 46312
Mail Code 4-444
T:219.399.7936 F: 219-399-4134 M: 219-218-2801

--------below is what I had written to Mr. Bruno after I spoke with him on the phone-------------

Hello Tony,
thanks for taking my call today.

I am looking for a resistance alloy wire that I was told your company makes.

I am a glassblower, and I would use this wire to wind into heating
elements to be put to use heating my main glass melting furnace. The
chamber of this furnace operates at 2000 degrees Fahrenheit
continuously for about 18 months at a time, except when it is sent up
to 2250 degrees Fahrenheit for 2 days twice a month (and then it
returns to idle at 2000 degrees). The wire elements themselves are
probably 100 to 150 degrees hotter than the chamber.

I currently use 10 gauge Kanthal A1 wire (rated to 2350 wire
temperature) to wind into these heating elements, and I was told your
company's wire is capable of maintaining perhaps 2450 degrees.

I would like to buy about 250 feet (or 500 feet if necessary). If it
works well for me (which will take up to 30 months to determine), I
would then likely buy 500 feet every three years.

Please let me know who I can speak to about this wire's name and
properties, and ho to go about purchasing it.

Thank you,
Brice Turnbull

owner
Sunlight Studio
130 W. 1st St.
Salida, CO 81201

719-539-5101