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Franklin Sankar 06-13-2019 08:09 AM

Blow hose tubing
 
Can you get blow hose tubing in Home Depot?
I donít like the clear hose for aquariums.
Where else can you get the hose.
Franklin

Shawn Everette 06-13-2019 09:19 AM

Doubtful. Look for latex tourniquet tubing.

Randy Kaltenbach 06-13-2019 10:22 AM

Surgical tubing works quite well and is available in many pharmacies here. Purchase by the foot is reasonably priced.

Rich Samuel 06-13-2019 01:29 PM

Franklin, spearfishermen and fishing lure makers use surgical tubing. Head to the waterfront.

Pete VanderLaan 06-13-2019 01:46 PM

or in your case, the pharmacia. It's pricey stuff actually. Maybe some local herion addict has some available.

Shawn Everette 06-13-2019 02:15 PM

Make sure to use an alcohol swab.

Rick Kellner 06-13-2019 02:30 PM

Franklin,

Another suggestion is to visit Island Hobbies in Port of Spain. Check to see if they have silicone fuel tubing for radio controlled models powered by little nitromethane/methanol engines. Should fit the bill, and probably will last longer before deteriorating, compared to the surgical type latex hose.

Larry Cazes 06-13-2019 04:51 PM

Any medical supply store like Brennans has it.

David Russell 06-13-2019 07:25 PM

I get it from lowes hardware store in 10 foot sections. So home depot likely has it as well..

Monte G Becker 06-14-2019 06:58 AM

Amazon choices
 
"Natural Latex Rubber Tubing"

1/4" OD
https://www.amazon.com/Spearit-Latex...ateway&sr=8-12


1/5" OD
https://www.amazon.com/AIRSOFTPEAK-S...y&sr=8-11&th=1

I've purchased blow hoses with black tubing which is more flexible than some latex hoses, but I don't know what it's called. The price for the above are right, if they work...

Franklin Sankar 06-15-2019 02:27 PM

Thanks. None here. The hospital have none they use a glove to tie off the arm. We have been trying to deal with the huge influx of Venezuela immigrants. They will further burden our struggling public health but I feel so sad for them. Unfortunately there are some bad ones in the crowd.
I am ok with my blowhose for now but preparing to get some spares.
Franklin

Franklin Sankar 06-15-2019 02:32 PM

Would the tubing Monte show above work.?
Franklin

Sky Campbell 06-15-2019 06:12 PM

I wouldnít want any latex tubing with less then a 1/4Ē ID and a 1/16Ē wall.
6mm ID and 1.6mm wall thickness for our fractionaly challenged friends.

Anything smaller makes you work harder blowing and anything thinner kinks at the most inopportune moment. This my personal observation I know some might disagree.

Pete VanderLaan 06-16-2019 08:10 AM

I'm a lot like a labrador with a mailbox around those things. I tried it. Eventually someone took pity on me and set me free.

Franklin Sankar 06-16-2019 08:20 AM

So Pete do you still use the blowhose. .
I canít blow without it. Itrie many many times to blow and cap.. my thumb has a hole. My neck is too short and I canít see the hot end
I donít know how you live without it.
Franklin

Pete VanderLaan 06-16-2019 07:07 PM

I live well without it and sleep well at night knowing it's somewhere lost in the building.

Ted Trower 06-16-2019 07:36 PM

Physical Therapists use a product called theratube. It works really well.

Monte G Becker 06-17-2019 05:56 AM

Thera-Band on Amazon
 
https://www.amazon.com/TheraBand-Res...8-8&th=1&psc=1

$14 for 25 feet comes in 8 different colors...

Ted Trower 06-17-2019 07:01 AM

Make sure you get Theratube and not Theraband.

Sky Campbell 06-17-2019 07:58 AM

[quote=Monte G Becker;144325]https://www.amazon.com/TheraBand-Res...8-8&th=1&psc=1

$14 for 25 feet comes in 8 different colors...[/QUOTE

Extra-Thin Tan Thera-Band Bulk Tubing with .062 ID x .058 Wall Thin Yellow Thera-Band Bulk Tubing .200 ID x .045 Wall Medium Red Thera-Band Bulk Tubing .200 ID x .057 Wall Heavy Green Thera-Band Bulk Tubing .200 ID x .069 Wall Extra-Heavy Blue Thera-Band Bulk Tubing .200 ID x .085 Wall Special Heavy Black Thera-Band Bulk Tubing .200 ID x .098 Super Heavy Silver Thera-Band Bulk Tubing .200 ID x .125 Wall

Franklin Sankar 06-17-2019 10:03 AM

What about the other part near the mouth piece. The tube that fits over the blow pipe
Franklin

Mark Rosenbaum 06-17-2019 10:54 AM

Franklin, why are you trying to reinvent the wheel? If you have to re-engineer the tubing and the mouthpiece why not just buy one that works from Olympic or Wale Apparatus?

Pete VanderLaan 06-17-2019 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Rosenbaum (Post 144334)
Franklin, why are you trying to reinvent the wheel? If you have to re-engineer the tubing and the mouthpiece why not just buy one that works from Olympic or Wale Apparatus?

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Careful Mark, you sound like me.

Sky Campbell 06-17-2019 04:40 PM

Automotive heater hose 1Ē will fit snugly on the blowpipe. A rubber stopper or cork in the end of that to connect your swivel. For the mouth piece Iíve seen everything from custom glass ones to repurpose of an old ink pen. I little imagination and ingenuity. This is a lot easier then designing and making art glass.

My guess is if Olympic would deliver to Trinidad this wouldnít be a discussion.
Not to dismiss if Olympic made such a great blow hose set up why would so many make their own. I could critique that but if you read my posts above you will gleam my decision to make my own rather then buy one off the shelf.

Firekist 1/4Ē 90degree double swivel for the win. If you own one you understand people that donít own one will say itís not worth the extra money.

Mark Armstrong 06-17-2019 06:51 PM

I've used thera-band for years, works great.

Franklin Sankar 06-17-2019 07:07 PM

Great substitute source Sky. Itís faster and easier for me to make it with local parts
Thanks all.
Franklin

Rich Samuel 06-17-2019 07:42 PM

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From Ivan Smith. £58 + shipping & insurance (at 1988 rates). Too pricey and complex for me in my beginner days.

Sky Campbell 06-18-2019 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Trower (Post 144323)
Physical Therapists use a product called theratube. It works really well.

Thank you Ted for posting on this tubing and thank you Monte for the link. I went ahead and placed an order for some of the green. It seems to be good quality. The thickness is almost perfect a little smaller ID then I usually use but I really like the look and feel. Iíll be trying it out today and could possibly be my new go to. The hive mentality really advances us as a whole.

Hereís an idea that has worked well for me carried over from scientific work. I take a piece of tubing about two feet and insert a piece of aluminum wire (copper would also work) about 2 or 3 inches longer then the tubing. With this you make a large hook that goes around your neck the couple extra inches of wire wrap around your blow hose approx ten inches from the moth piece. Some might prefer to make a necklace instead of the hook but the idea is you mouth piece stays put in the same place and you donít have the blow hose going around your neck.

Sky Campbell 06-18-2019 11:22 AM

These are the swivels I swear by. Seth came up with this double swivel design and improved a common tool in the shop significantly. Well worth the money. He also sells neon electrode boots in small quantities. These are light weight and fit on a blow pipe nicely. I use them on some of my custom made pipes and use them on the lathe. I still like the short piece of heater hose for the traditional blowpipes but that is just my preference.


https://www.etsy.com/listing/1801928...QaAgBYEALw_wcB

Rick Kellner 06-18-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sky Campbell (Post 144305)
I wouldnít want any latex tubing with less then a 1/4Ē ID and a 1/16Ē wall.
6mm ID and 1.6mm wall thickness for our fractionaly challenged friends.

Anything smaller makes you work harder blowing and anything thinner kinks at the most inopportune moment. This my personal observation I know some might disagree.


In the neon realm (where you pretty much have a blowhose hooked up to yourself all day long) I'm accustomed to using finer gauge tubing, i.e. 1/8" and even 3/32" diameter of the bore.

After comparing these rigs to the comparatively clunky looking stuff marketed for hot glass, I tested out my neon set-up in the hot shop. I can't say that there was any more resistance to blowing than the bigger tubing.

I have experienced kinking of the hose in the past, but this is pretty much related to the wall thickness of the tube and the grade of material. Once the wall thickness gets too thin, the tubing will inevitably kink. Selecting a product with a thicker wall typically eliminates this problem. For this reason, the tubing in hardware stores often doesn't work well, because it's too thin walled and floppy.

A common connection to a piece of neon tubing (from the hose and swivel) is an alligator clip insulator, which slides over the outside of the glass tubing.

I've found that these also often adapt to many of the blowpipe mouthpiece diameters commonly available. The fact that they are tapered gives you options.

If you play around with the neon gear, you do need small swivels though. A 1/4" swivel is overkill. But the little 3/16" brass swivels common to the trade will fit the bill.

Shawn Everette 06-18-2019 01:16 PM

I've been seeing more people using the technolux insulators on boro blanks, the 15mm might work for some blow pipes. Got any neon shops in Trinidad Franklin? They'd probably have the whole set up.

Rick Kellner 06-18-2019 02:14 PM

When I was in neon school, the instructors told me that there had been a fellow who attended the school previously, in order to become the first neon shop operator in Trinidad (in contemporary times, at least). Would be interesting to find out if he accomplished the mission, and whether or not he is still up and running.

Rich Samuel 06-18-2019 02:34 PM

Rick, he could be this guy.

https://www.centralneon.co/

Richard Huntrods 06-19-2019 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Trower (Post 144323)
Physical Therapists use a product called theratube. It works really well.

Ted, I agree with Sky - thanks for the link. In my case even more timely as I have 25' of the theratube black that I boughtfor my rotator cuff rehab exercises. The stuff is color-coded as to resistance, with black being the most resistance.

I just checked what I have, and it will be a perfect fit as replacement tubing for my rig. I do have to buy a better swivel - mine leaks badly.

Lowell Duell 06-22-2019 02:19 PM

What about the mouthpiece, mine is getting kind of chewed up?
Where can you get one.

Rich Samuel 06-22-2019 02:51 PM

A good tobacconist will have them, but I find I like working without a mouthpiece. If you tend to clench your teeth, either go without a mouthpiece or get one that has a soft rubber cover.

Pete VanderLaan 06-22-2019 05:47 PM

clench your tooth. They call it a tooth brush for a reason.

Franklin Sankar 06-22-2019 09:17 PM

Glass in cuba
 
Just came back from a first time visit to Cuba. Direct flight from TT to Cuba.
It makes you appreciate what you have. We carried toys for the children. The look on theor face was worth it.
No glass there. At least none that I could see. Shawn, no neon. Led took over.

Franklin

Shawn Everette 06-24-2019 10:07 AM

That has been the trend. Luckily it looks like nostalgia hit the US market so there is somewhat of a comeback for neon.

Pete VanderLaan 06-25-2019 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklin Sankar (Post 144432)
Just came back from a first time visit to Cuba. Direct flight from TT to Cuba.
It makes you appreciate what you have. We carried toys for the children. The look on their face was worth it.


Franklin

Bless you Frankin. We can't even carry them to Texas.


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