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Old 07-19-2020, 07:13 PM
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So what exactly is a tool?

This should be a piece of cake.
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Sometimes tools are an investment. I bought a set of signed David Patchen’s cork paddles with the wood handles awhile back. I used them once, then put them in storage.

David is reported to be one of the top 10 modern glass blowers in the U.S......soooo I plan on my grandchildren making some big bucks someday
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Old 07-20-2020, 06:05 AM
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a tool is kind of a jerk or ass hat. a bit slow, dolt-ish. v
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Old 07-20-2020, 08:55 AM
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Is a rock a tool? Re some rocks better tools if they're rocks?
Is a lens a tool?
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Old 07-20-2020, 10:06 AM
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Sometimes, yes, sometimes.

If you want to talk about it in terms of craft/Art, a tool is used to affect a material, but is not presented as part of the finished piece. This is usually more easily discernible in the craft world, separating itself from the Art worlds penchant for bullshitery. With glass we often have instances where it is used it as a "tool", e.g. punty.
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:30 PM
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Sometimes, yes, sometimes.

If you want to talk about it in terms of craft/Art, a tool is used to affect a material, but is not presented as part of the finished piece. This is usually more easily discernible in the craft world, separating itself from the Art worlds penchant for bullshitery. With glass we often have instances where it is used it as a "tool", e.g. punty.
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I like to think of it as something that can help you perform a function better. There are flat rocks and sharp rocks. One bashes heads well, the other can drive a nail while your hand can't. There are workable and terrible glasses.

That's why I think of a decently engineered glass being a tool if you tried to perform the piece using bottle glass. One isn't going to let your work happen- period. But you assert neither the glass or the color in any piece is a tool at all. I take it that photosensitive glasses that can develop images are not tools then.

So in the development of the microscope, it hit early limitations because of tooling in the form of the lens. It really didn't work. Once Schott developed better glasses did the performance improve to a level of working reasonably well. Is the microscope the tool. Is it a tool without the lens? Are the components of the thing that made it function tools?
Can a lens be a tool if it's used to start a fire?
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Old 07-20-2020, 12:19 PM
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Is a rock a tool? Re some rocks better tools if they're rocks?
Is a lens a tool?
everytime I go camping, I expect humans in a thousand years to find our camp sites and say "primitive man used rock to smash steel peg into ground to hold up flimsy shelter"
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A government or elected official who takes direction on importent matters from private interests while thinking, or representing themselves as being "of the people, by the people and for the people".
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Donald Trump?
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:14 PM
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In the right situation a paperweight in a tube sock is an awesome tool.
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