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Old 06-05-2017, 11:16 AM
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So, how was GAS?

It should be all done but the hangovers. Any input?
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:56 AM
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Old 06-11-2017, 03:22 PM
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Don't overwhelm me with your responses here!
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OK, you would have hated it.
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Thanks for sharing John. Specifically, what would have made me the most pissed off. Don't be shy here.
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I think some people enjoyed it Pete. That oughta burn your britches! Heeheehee

I didn't go this year and I wish I had. There was a lot of cool lampworking stuff going on. I also wish I could have made it out to the Bioglass gathering beforehand. I find it's always a good time no matter where it's hosted. At least the ones I've been to.
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Old 06-12-2017, 04:51 AM
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The most pissed off? That's an easy one, it would have been the closing night party. What do I win?

It all depends what a person wants to get out of it. For me, I enjoy the chance once a year to meet with a large number of other glass people, some old friends, some new. When you live in a sort of glassworking desert this is the most efficient way to do that. I'm not a party guy but the closing night party was a good chance to meet people and put faces to names. I got to meet one person from FL who has been the topic of some conversation/speculation on this forum and hear his side of the story and his business experiences which I found enlightening.

I also get to see other parts of the country in a sort of deductible way. The Chrysler Museum was a real treat also. The opening reception and the chance to tour the Wisconsin were other non-glass things that I really enjoyed. Maybe I just like it because I plan on liking it before I go.
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Old 06-12-2017, 07:00 AM
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I suppose I want to go to venues that have a long tradition with glass. When it was in W.Virginia, it made real sense. Corning and Seattle have made sense. Beyond the Chrysler, this one eludes me. Murano, you bet.

As the organization changes and lamp working and fusing take a larger and larger role than it once did, I imagine that those type venues matter less and less. I am not a party person by nature and being quite deaf, parties are simply noise generators where I can't hear anyone. I do miss my hearing.

These days when someone comes to visit, I have a microphone I can hang around their neck which broadcasts to my hearing aids. It works incredible well and even has a shut down feature if someone was to drop it so my head won't explode. That technology is amazing but crowds are still very tough.
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Within 10 years I predict GAS will be in Denver or Boulder to cater to the stoner pipe maker crowd.

Pilchuck has already started the trend with a pipe show
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Within 10 years I predict GAS will be in Denver or Boulder to cater to the stoner pipe maker crowd.

Pilchuck has already started the trend with a pipe show
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Well, Grass is legal there so there could be test Hookahs! I envision some sort of competition.
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Fair to middlin'

Norfolk was cool, first time there. The Chrysler Museum was impressive. Their Glass Studio was nice. The scheduling of demos and lectures over the top of each other makes it nearly impossible, and the lecture lengths make it just long enough to get the audience up to speed on the topic, but never enough time to introduce anything groundbreaking or even worthy of conversation.

It was mediocre at best. I had no plans of going, but ended up escorting some students. It seems absurd to me, to have an entire conference with a theme of "performance". Let's face it, the act of blowing glass has been seen as a "performance" for a very long time. That's why CMOG has a traveling studio. It's also why you can find studios on cruise ships, now...people who don't know anything about glass find it fascinating to watch. Hell, I still find it fascinating to watch.

However, the constant drive to want the material of glass to enter the Fine Art world with a capital "A", has people pushing way to hard to conceptualize with the material. For some it happens easily, but for most listening to them talk about their art is like listening to a 5 year old tell a story.

I watched some performances, and the most moving was put on by a group of inner-city Chicago kids who have all been effected personally by gun violence. What role did the glass play in the performance? They used glass, but it was not pivotal to me being moved by their message. Their music, their words and the images they projected on the side of the building were what moved me. The other performances that I saw, didn't utilize the material for anything other than it's normal working properties, and were not impressive in the slightest. The glass studio already brings people together. It already makes creating an "event". Trying to push it further than that usually comes off as high brow bullshit, and most of these performance did exactly that. Why must everyone wear matching coveralls for Glass Performances?!

There was a flameworking demo that was titled "something like 'If You're Professor Didn't Teach You About Pipes, You Were Robbed', and the demo was supposed to also be accompanied by a critique of "the institution'...I was intriqued. Especially because the young man has an MFA from a pretty reputable school. Unfortunately, I missed the demo (because you cannot navigate the scheduling of demos to accommodate more than 2 demos/day, and only 1 if there's a demo that goes long) but caught up to him at a GAS Event and opened the conversation with him personally. I don't think I missed anything.

Murano sounds cool...if you're lucky enough to get one of the "limited" # of tickets, but apparently every room within a reasonable distance of Murano is already booked for that time frame. We'll see.
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:11 PM
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If Murano is indeed already booked, they who must be seen have covered themselves. I sometimes wonder if it will be more like the Oscars preview with all the dresses. If so, I'll just read the reviews or go a week early to see what I would like to see. It's been a long time since GAS Educated. I've never been to Murano. Maybe a bad time to go.

I'm saying it in reflection while working with Mark Peiser on making a non toxic white enamel glass for the cane people. No Lead , No arsenic, just two old guys researching enamels comparatively on a part of the art that I think was really abandoned a long time ago in deference to crayons.

It's not sour grapes. It is what it is. I rarely understand performance art when I look at timelines. . I do get what's behind the glass at the Corning museum that documents where we came from. That's humbling stuff. When you get included in the group it's way more humbling still.
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There are rooms still available on Murano and in Venice.
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Apropos GAS, my membership renewal came today and I can't think of a single reason to renew.
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Id rather go on a nice vacation and not think about glass when I leave my studio.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:18 AM
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well, with this you can write it all off as a business expense and catch a boat to Croatia. It's really beautiful.
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I feel similarly to Eben.
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Old 06-17-2017, 04:57 PM
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At a a certain point in glass, 50 years back the conferences were more gathering points to share what we knew and had learned in the last year. Drinking on a bus was part of that small gathering. Exciting times and I wish they were still in existence. When it changed into marketing and money, as Fritz once so long ago said :

"Money changed everything". The sirens song. Get old, experience a change in what you really value.
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this was my first year to go to GAS....

I'm not the traditional glassblower that I guess that I see now. I'm not out of a college program. I was originally pretty much self taught starting now about 20 years ago and now manage to catch a class here and there to shore up my sometimes old school way of doing things.

I'm not really even sure what I expected GAS to be...

What I saw was an event that seemed to be searching for it's market...

We had students, trying to do some networking... we had old timers, who I'm not sure what they got out of the convention... and we had collectors... we had a LOT of collectors....

There were conversations/sessions where collectors were sort of being told what to collect, and others telling students that the gallery system was going to go over/back to the salon model and how it was up to the salon to tell the artist(students) that their body of work was done now, played out, make something new, for example this, for their in-pocket collectors...

what I didn't see was much real technical information being presented. there was a little, but that's not the focus. nor really was it even all that much about 'good' glass art.. whatever that means....

I don't know... I'm still thinking about what I saw at GAS this year. I wish I could afford to go to Murano next year but I can't... The Chrysler has a really good glass collection, and the demo spaces and folks were all great. I'm sure I'll love a GAS convention at Corning.

But I'm still not sure who they are trying to reach. Their focus seems diffused at best.

Murano is mostly for the collectors I think. They are capping the number of attendees and very limited space in the tours. I expect most of those will go to the folks with pockets, the collectors..

and maybe that's what GAS is now for. I don't know.

It was good to go. I'm not entirely certain though that what in GAS is there for me.
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