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Old 05-16-2019, 12:51 PM
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Chinese Billet Manufacturer

A friend of mine saw some nice clear color billets and asked the person that had them who manufactured them. He was only told that they came from China. Does anyone know the name of the manufacturer and or where one can make a purchase?
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Old 05-17-2019, 08:51 AM
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How big a billet? Does it need some engineering parameters? Eveline is coming here from Shanghai tomorrow with Wang Kai and they would likely know.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:29 PM
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Old 05-17-2019, 06:00 PM
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Eveline cancelled late today. Too much in too little time. It really would help to have some vague parameters on the specs. One of the criticism's I had of the Seattle batch cullet was that it was so cheap, it could not be engineered.

China is better than many think. Eveleine could make such things now with some guidance but they would need to know the parameters. Fuel is not Cheap in Shanghai but labor and materials generally are reasonable. It doesn' cost all that much to ship to the West Coast but after that? It becomes logistics.

With the suden influx of expensive cullet that won't really work, prehaps excluding the Booma. it's not a field a sane manufacturer would pursue. Far easier to see who falls by the side of the road for now.

What do you want the stuff to do?
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Old 05-18-2019, 07:54 PM
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I'm just back from teaching at the China Academy of Art, they use a lot of this stuff there.
I'm pretty sure there are a couple of sources of those billets, the major distinction being those with lead, and those without. I saw a bunch of work made with the non lead stuff - and its as you would expect in terms of quality - not particularly bright, not particularly optically dense, and an unremarkable polish. Often with some clearly visible striae - some from the casting process, some within the billets themselves.
The palette is pretty ordinary too.
Its cheap,
Buy it while you can.
I'll ask my students where it comes from and report back when I have a chance.
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My problem with many of the Chinese cullet suppliers ( or billets) was inconsistency of expansion from one load to the next. Back when Seattle batch was importing cullet, I kept getting it into the shop for evaluation and it was disheartening to see a serious (7 points) variance from one container to the next. That indeed killed it as a product.

One of the things about Eveline's venture is consistency of quality but they don't sell cullet. They considered it but the circumstances of west coast ports made it too dicey to pursue.
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Old 05-20-2019, 09:55 AM
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For Casting

My friend wants it strictly for casting. Don't think he really cares about differences in expansion.
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Old 05-20-2019, 01:37 PM
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If it's monolithic for casting, it will be OK. I wouldn't assume that if colors were being mixed. Eveline has gone dark at this point. She has to get constant new VPN's in Hong Kong to use. Even her main employer Ingersol Rand had lost it's freedom of internet access in Shanghai. I hear from her when she's in Hong Kong usually.
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