Speaking of cullet

[Randy Kaltenbach]

So i spoke to a number of folk at GAS Corning who are convinced that Spectrum will continue production. Nobody gave me any details so now i wonder whether they were optimistic, delusional, or "know something". Any thoughts?

[Pete VanderLaan]

well, the furnaces are shot. Did you see the nuggets that I had with the stones and other inclusions in them from Spectrum? They were the ones Pringle had gotten in late april. When she complained she was told they met the QC standards. I was told that actually the property was being sold off. Those furnaces won't move.

[Randy Kaltenbach]

Originally Posted by Pete VanderLaan

Did you see the nuggets that I had with the stones and other inclusions in them from Spectrum?

Yes, I did see them and thanks for having them at the conference. Many blowers I spoke to seemed to think that that was acceptable, too

[Pete VanderLaan]

we have really fallen from grace.