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Old 11-11-2019, 08:56 AM
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Well this is exciting news!!

I love hucksters:

https://yesweekly.com/the-science-behind-glassblowing/
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Old 11-11-2019, 09:52 AM
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Yeah I'm curious how they're turning "any" glass into "96".
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I started reading and thought it was an interesting article and I enjoyed hearing more about their educational mission until the second I read that line about the "patented formula for transforming any glass into a 96"..
Yeah, gimme a break (so to speak)
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It's MAGIC!!!!
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Old 11-11-2019, 02:56 PM
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It's MAGIC!!!!
Or the mescal.

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Old 11-11-2019, 03:20 PM
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If, as you say, the bottles are all from the same facility ( Likely in Monterrey where there is a very modern factory for lead glasses), with an addition of flux with a good tank liner, yes, it's quite possible to make the clear workable and cord free.

That is a huge distance from the pictures showing all the cut offs with color attached in North Carolina. That part, I do not believe for an instant. That is just BS. .
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:26 AM
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Of course this can't be correct, but I know some folks who use his additives with recycled glass and swear by them. Specifically the guys who run the shop at Soneva Fushi in the Maldives melt bottle glass and add Thornton's mix and they can combine the resulting clear with commercial color. They've hosted lots of top-tier artists at their studio and the finished work seems to be fine. I'm as shocked as anyone, and I'm sure the bottles have to be clear and from the same manufacturer or you'd end up with a cordy mess that's not even compatible with itself. But we should get someone who uses the additives to weigh in since it does seem impossible.
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Old 11-11-2019, 10:58 AM
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But we should get someone who uses the additives to weigh in since it does seem impossible.
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Oh, I'm waiting.

I remember when Fritz used to pull people's legs with the recommendation that they add a can of "Seedz be gone", or "Cords Away" to cullet. he had to stop because people kept trying to buy it.

This seems more like Heidi Broderbund's "15 percent rule" for those who have long memories. That was the maximum amount of any glass you could just add to your work with no issues.

The best part of that "magic Mountain on the Austro/Czech border when the lead was harmlessly leached out of the cullet." Great stuff and then she named her cullet company "Czech Glass". Henry thought that was hysterical.

At one early time, we were adding soda ash to plate glass and getting it to where it wouldn't actually break things if you used Kugler with it. .

Credit for this alert goes to Scott Benefield.
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Old 11-11-2019, 12:48 PM
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Um.... sounds like someone needs to do some mansplaining
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All of the very bestest stuff is coming from Mexico!
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Anyone find the patent?
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:31 PM
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that won't happen and there's nothing to patent.
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that won't happen and there's nothing to patent.
I get that, just wondering if he did manage to get a patent somewhere since he claims a patent. Being in the IT industry I have seen some really ridiculous patents.

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Old 11-13-2019, 05:24 PM
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If the patent said what people are claiming , it would say

Add: to ten lbs of cullet
1.5 lbs of soda ash, .25 lbs barium carb
mix well.
melt at 2325F.
Results may vary


Great patent.
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This is Christian Thorntan's mix that he uses for his factory down in Mexico. It raises the expansion of container glass to let it work with the commercial color out there and maybe softens up the glass a bit to help the workability. Last I heard he was selling it to people who want to do a similar thing. It's probably not a tough thing to figure out on your own if one was interested. It's not rocket science people.

He was scheduled to give a talk at the San Jose GAS conference but wasn't able to make it but one of engineers came and gave an excellent presentation on what they are doing on the energy efficiency front. I would have to say from the looks of it he's probably doing more with that kind of thing than anyone else right now.
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