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Old 10-28-2017, 10:05 AM
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Phillips batch...

Is this stuff still available ?
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Old 10-28-2017, 12:42 PM
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Talked to a guy in Denmark this summer that is still using it. I loved the stuff but switched when we got a bad run. I donít think anyone imports it anymore but it is still being made.
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Old 10-28-2017, 03:40 PM
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We kind of miss the european batch wars but near as I can see GLASMA and Cristalica were both making cullet, Cristalica had a shortage two summers back for an extended period while they moved production from Romania to E. Germany in Dobern. At the Same time, GLASMA stopped making and selling cullet and went back to their batch business.
Phillips was a concern making pelletized batch for a variety of concerns in Europe as well. I know a lot of people that did like it over SP because it was so dust free and easy to deal with. Then , suddenly there were some issues with it. At this point I simply do not know if anyone is handling that product. It was not a small operation. I think Michael Alfheldt likely knows a lot more than I do, or Jan at Essemce

While I frequently extol the advantages of making your own, it's really not without it's own headaches. Its not just the dust but the potential for humidity to create headaches in the mixing accuracy. I've had bad runs of chemicals as well over the years.

The bottom line is that you're really only as good as the next furnace fill. Testing regularly is really the only way you avoid heartache and testing doesn't necessarily bring one to a solution. It may bring you to a dead end. On Murano, the EU is bringing the island to its knees over lead arsenates.

The reality is always the same. This is actually hard to do and there are no guarantees, not on color rods, not on batch, or cullet, not on pots or wholesale shows. It's really all an art form. Expecting things to be stable is not happening. Every year is different. After fifty years of this stuff, I can't tell you how much respect I have for the people who have stuck it out despite all the odds against them. Heros all.
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Old 10-29-2017, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for the responses. I was just asking because it was A beautiful glass to work with and then poof. It vanished and I never hear about it any more.

Pete, who makes the barium crystal that Simon Pearce uses? Glasma?
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Old 10-29-2017, 10:00 AM
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I don't really know for sure. The only barium glass I know of does come from GLASMA. Barium glasses are quite beautiful but require a certain amount of actual attention and skill to melt. Scott Benefield is using it now in Northern Ireland and at the same time muttering about beginning to mix his own clear. I think that's based in cost, with the GLASMA Batch landed in Belfast at about $1.95 lb.
As I said, expect boutique glass to cost you a good deal more once the backlog of Spectrum is exhausted.
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Old 10-29-2017, 04:05 PM
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Last I'd heard a few years ago was that Glasma were making a custom batch for Simon Pearce. Simon Pearce had an excess of it at one point and were trying to convince members of our Vermont Glass Guild to buy some of it. I don't think anyone did, but man that barium can make a nice clear. If clear glass is your thing that is..
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Old 10-29-2017, 06:49 PM
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Barium can replace lead in full or in part. Serious clarity but the batches have a propensity to throw stones in Alumina pots above 2200F, so it takes some attention to melt it. It is a heavy metal. Think of it like "Lead Lite". I do use barium.
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Can it match schott in clarity . The one they use for paper weights.
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Old 10-30-2017, 01:34 PM
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No but it's realy nice.
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Glasma is doing a custom batch for Pearce, the sidestep into cullet was just to help keep the Orrefors furnace at a constant flow while production was reduced. The moment that furnace was off so was the the cullet production. People where actually melting Orrefors barium crystal.
The Philips factory in Winschoten, not Philips anymore since they sold off the Lighting division, still exists and still produces pelletised batch, The decision to start pelletising was made years ago since the plant melted over 300 different batches for specialty glass. Some where run only once a year in a small run of a few tonne. Very uneconomical, so they would do a run of 20 to 40 tonne of batch, pelletise it and store it, stays well for years. Than they looked to the small glass producers outside, I was involved in initial testing of there low temp studio glass batches, initially tuned to the moretti rods. Told them they should make it fit the German colour bars, good luck.
Heard of some quality issues as well about 2 years ago but used it in a project last year and it was as nice as ever. Still I prefer the GLASMA batch for clear
My own mixing is just for colour batch, though GLASMA supplies a range of colour addition to there clear batch.
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