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Old 06-16-2020, 08:43 PM
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Sharing our Sanitation Checklist

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This is a draft copy of our sanitation list, use at own risk feel free to suggest additions.
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Hot Shop Sanitation Checklist

Morning
1. Wipe tools with Clorox as you put them out
2. Wipe pipe mouthpieces with alcohol as you put them out
3. Wipe pipe handles with alcohol or Clorox wipes before you use them
4. Wipe your blow hose mouthpiece with alcohol before you use it.
5. Spray shield handles with Lysol
6. Spray annealer handles with Lysol
7. Spray furnace handle with Lysol
During the day
1. Wipe tool mouthpieces with alcohol when piece is done or taking a break during production.
2. Wipe pipe handles with alcohol or Clorox wipes when piece is done or taking a break during production
3. Wipe tools when you change gaffers
Before Events/Rentals
1. Wipe safety glasses for customers with alcohol
2. Wipe tools with alcohol or Clorox wipes
3. Wipe pipe mouth pieces with alcohol
4. Wipe pipe handles with Clorox
During Events
1. Wipe safety glasses with alcohol after they are used
2. Wipe pipe mouthpieces with alcohol when you are putting them back up.
3. Wipe pipe handles with Clorox wipes
4. Wipe tools with alcohol or Clorox wipes
After Events/Rentals
1. Wipe safety glasses for customers with alcohol
2. Wipe tools with alcohol or Clorox wipes
3. Wipe pipe mouth pieces with alcohol
4. Wipe handles with Clorox
End of Day
1. Hang up hand tools and spray with Lysol
2. Put pipes in dry bucket and spray with Lysol
3. Spray shield handles with Lysol
4. Spray annealer handles with Lysol
5. Spray furnace handle with Lysol
6. Spray bench area with Lysol
7. Spray doorknobs with Lysol
8. Wash masks and hand to dry
9. Toss out any used cups
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:58 AM
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That's a whole lotta wiping! In keeping with the times, I guess...
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Old 06-17-2020, 12:06 PM
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Damn, I remember when I was a noob, thinking, "Cool, most of this stuff cleans itself, and what doesn't takes no time at all to clean." A friend who's a stone sculptor said he had the same thought when he started. As he put it, "vacuum, sweep, and go home."
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Old 06-17-2020, 01:00 PM
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Clorox wipes are a rare commodity where we live. It sounds like you really chew them up. I actually wonder how effective they are. Given the remarkable capacity the virus has to jump hosts, it will be interesting to see if you get many takers. Now if you were a bar...
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Old 06-17-2020, 02:29 PM
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We make our own disinfectant wipes that use a solution that my daughter uses in surgery. I don't know the name because she mixed it up for us, but it is very little in a gallon of water. We just dunk paper towels in it and wipe off pipes and punties. I also thought that the number of times that we wipe down per day was going to go through a huge amount of Clorox wipes...
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Old 06-17-2020, 02:41 PM
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This is in my wheelhouse so I thought I should comment, just my 2cÖ.
This virus is transmitted usually by asymptomatic persons via mucus or saliva droplets. If I were in a teaching environment, I would try to have my students provide some means to show that they have been tested in the recent past before entering the studio. Second, I would do a temperature check like being done in many restaurants, etc.
As far as cleaning, I think that using clorox and Lysol is overkill in the studio. Clorox & Lysol will leave residues on objects and is not friendly to metal. A general hand sanitizer with 70% alcohol* works just fine for all these surfaces. If you clean everything at the end of day, there is no need to re-clean when you put them out in the morning. Providing the students with the ability to wash hands is very important and if you have a bathroom, cleaning it at end of day is very important also. One high concern area that is not mentioned in your list is the inside of the pipes which is where the droplets exhaled could hang out. A squirt of grain alcohol (store bought moonshine) would sanitize the inside of the pipe as well as the mouthpiece & shaft. A cycle to allow the alcohol to evaporate would be needed between student use.
Art, you have done a great job in thinking out the contact areas in the studio. If your students wear masks & wash their hands when not blowing, it would greatly reduce your cleaning load.
One last thing, I would insist on any student signing a Notice-of-non-responsibility clause** for contracting Covid-19 similar to what the President is doing for his upcoming rally. Again, just my 2cÖ.
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** http://www.lawinsider.com/clause/not...responsibility
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:00 PM
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Keep the feedback coming, great feedback. We aren't on the class part yet, just starting back up for production. Our plan is to have a one sheet sanitation writeup for customers so they know what their responsibilities are. I am having folks do things at the end of the day and beginning because I want to be sure nothing gets missed. In general my strategy is if hands touch it, Clorox. If it may hit someones lips or eyes, alcohol, general overall Lysol. The alcohol in the pipe is a good idea, we are mandating individual blow hoses for working but still thinking about how to sanitize them without killing them. Might just get a roll of surgical tubing and take the hit on the solutions making the hose degrade quicker. Would 91% isopropyl be ok for the inside of the pipes? Do need to make sure we don't put them right back in the pipe warmer

Also great recommendation on the waiver clause.
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:21 PM
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Clorox is sodium hypochlorite and will flat ruin most metals. Denatured alcohol aka Coleman fuel. Is a good disenfectant and available in paint stores and hardwares.
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:47 PM
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Roseanna is right. Further 70 percent is all you really want.

I think drinking Irish Whiskey neat and spewing it in the pipe should help draw the crowd.
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Old 06-17-2020, 07:01 PM
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For inside the pipe I was looking at 91% because that will evaporate quicker and has less water in it than 70%. Not looking at 91% because it is stronger.
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Old 06-17-2020, 08:42 PM
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99% at Safeway for about $3.00/pint. I spray it from a floral mister on all the common area doorknobs, coin slides, laundry machine doors, etc. No wiping, as that's more likely to transfer viruses or germs.

Non-responsibility agreements and clauses, unfortunately, almost never have any teeth in practice. Courts really hate when a party tries to dodge consequences by citing one. The law is founded on the concept of responsibility. Think of the clause we've all signed when consigning work or entrusting an exhibitor. Those contracts almost always have a clause saying, in effect, if your work is broken, lost, or stolen, sucks to be you. Washington has a law that specifically forbids the enforcement of such clauses. Note that's enforcement. You can still put it in a contract (for those who will accept it without question), you just can't get out of paying the artist. Here we call that compromise.
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Old 06-17-2020, 08:51 PM
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I would go with Everclear 190 from the liquor store. It is 95% ethyl alcohol and unlike isopropyl or denatured is safe to drink when diluted.
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Old 06-17-2020, 10:17 PM
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Old 06-17-2020, 10:32 PM
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Build a kiln to put all metal tools in at 250 for a an hour. Done

EDIT: have enough pipes to last 2.5 hours so you can rotate in and out

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Old 06-17-2020, 10:37 PM
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Have a powerful exhaust fan where you blow out pipes to clear steam/ water.

Mire ventilation in general for the entire studio and common places to stand.

Get an air pump to do most of the blowing or the new manual hand pump coming out from one of the vendors

Some sort of breathable masks but that defeats thebourpose.... that's a biggie
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Old 06-17-2020, 10:41 PM
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Florida is spiking exponentially and is worse than ever so I'm doing even more to stay inside as "life returns to normal" and almost 3k new cases per day. Estimated 4-14k new cases PER day in ONE month.
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Old 06-18-2020, 01:42 PM
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Probably a unpopular notion but at this point if I could go hang out with the kid down the street who has the virus I might do that. Iím ready to fight this and stop worrying if Iím going to infect people I care about.

Antibody testing here only costs $5 if you have the worst health insurance. If I was a shop teacher I would feel better knowing I had antibodies and couldnít spread it to my students.
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Old 06-18-2020, 09:18 PM
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From the Times:

You May Have Antibodies After Coronavirus Infection. But Not for Long.

Bottom line, not enough research yet to know what this is.
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:34 AM
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Probably a unpopular notion but at this point if I could go hang out with the kid down the street who has the virus I might do that. Iím ready to fight this and stop worrying if Iím going to infect people I care about.

Antibody testing here only costs $5 if you have the worst health insurance. If I was a shop teacher I would feel better knowing I had antibodies and couldnít spread it to my students.
You do realize that " recovered " does not mean well right? Life long lung damage, kidney damage, heart damage ,,,,, those things do not just
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Old 06-19-2020, 08:52 AM
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Probably a unpopular notion but at this point if I could go hang out with the kid down the street who has the virus I might do that. I’m ready to fight this and stop worrying if I’m going to infect people I care about.

Antibody testing here only costs $5 if you have the worst health insurance. If I was a shop teacher I would feel better knowing I had antibodies and couldn’t spread it to my students.
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Especially unpopular, one might even call it ignorant for those, like my daughter who had a full dose of it while bringing kids out of Italy for the State Dept in Feb/March. Sh said it was like having a 400lb weight on your chest. She's younger than you.

And then, the jury is still out on how long immunity might last, they really don't know. Finally, it might just be the case that one of your students comes in and has it and gives it to all the other students.

I suppose you could still get to Tulsa and mingle with the crowd.
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I spent 2 weekends in NYC doing all the touristy stuff .. had a cough I couldnít kick for a month and a half after my last visit. Suffice to say, I assume I had ďitĒ.

Iíll still wear a mask to make others happy... but Iíll lick a toilet seat in Central Park right now for $50 and sleep well that night. (Howís that for a visual?)
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70% sterilizes better than 99% or 95% so you should dilute to that ratio.
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Close family friend, 32 yrs old, nurse in senior long- term care facility. She caught it about 8 weeks ago and is "out of danger" but still not "well"..

We ALL need to take it seriously.
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Old 06-19-2020, 01:24 PM
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70% sterilizes better than 99% or 95% so you should dilute to that ratio.
I do dilute it, though I've been using tap water. So far, so good. Stay tuned...
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