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Old 09-10-2018, 11:01 AM
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Post Consumer Cullet

It is my understanding that many of you are scrounging for usable cullet and having a difficult if not impossible time locating any. Many years ago Norm Courtney (now deceased) published this paper on post-consumer cullet for the studio artist. It is by all standards not an ideal solution for the studio but can possibly in some instances be an alternative. As I noted it was written many years ago and many of the references noted in the paper are no longer relevant. I only post it here for you to download, read and comment on.
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Old 09-10-2018, 12:43 PM
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Thanks Henry i have not read that in years, sourcing cutlet has gotten harder
around here, last time someone i know asked for scrap at the bottle factory they had no extra, most was going back into process and everything left was getting shipped off somewhere. but the glass eye did this for years, and had good results.
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For those who never had the great pleasure of knowing Norm, this captures him better than anything I've seen before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsU3x2fIJKQ
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I'll remember Norm for two things:
Kicking and missing closing the door on a furnace. ( bad burn)

Throwing the cane drawing into the rollers at Spectrum ( remarkable mess)
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Thanks Henry i have not read that in years, sourcing cutlet has gotten harder
around here, last time someone i know asked for scrap at the bottle factory they had no extra, most was going back into process and everything left was getting shipped off somewhere. but the glass eye did this for years, and had good results.
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Old 09-10-2018, 05:23 PM
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... but the glass eye did this for years, and had good results.
Bullseye used recycle bottle cullet for years but only as a percent addition to batch.
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I think at one time cullet acquisition was not difficult. I think about recycled vegetable oil the same way. Time there was when Mark Graham and I would teeter down to Northwest glass to have the Pilchuck truck with no brakes to get a front end loader of cullet from the plant- about three thousand pounds a week. Time there was when Hugh Jenkins was getting discard oil from the local fast food joint to beat the fuel costs on the big Island. . Those commodities became really hard to find as demand and economics closed in.

To buy a glass crusher which Norm cites as "about 5k" would be on the low end of pricing today.

So while I think it is a noble thought, given the consumption rates in studio glass, looking for discard cullet is a tough nut to crack. Until the cullet manufacturers give more thought to making more benign cullets and studios put more thought into what their primary material ought to cost coupled with the ease of melting it, then this is going to keep making SP87 or East Bay really more attractive than lots of folks want to acknowledge. SP was losing market share incrementally year by year. People should be relieved it's still around and currently prospering.
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I have spent a little time finding wine bottles for special projects,
and getting 3 restaurants to save bottles took 2 months to get
enough for 1 good melt. it is a lot of work.
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