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Old 11-30-2017, 11:17 AM
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Have had this problem in the past as well. it got better when we waited a little longer to put the hook on but always a little bit in there. I think the vent under the hook is the way to go.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:23 PM
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AIdan dosent want a vent because he is coldworking them, and water/junk could seep in while he works on them. I’ve had to make around 200 to get him 60 without condensation. He needs about 100-200 more and i’m at my wits end. Anyone want to make them for him?

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Old 11-30-2017, 03:06 PM
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AIdan dosent want a vent because he is coldworking them, and water/junk could seep in while he works on them. Iíve had to make around 200 to get him 60 without condensation. He needs about 100-200 more and iím at my wits end. Anyone want to make them for him?
Are they clear? How much? Email me.... info@rosetreegallery.com... thanks
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Old 11-30-2017, 04:38 PM
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Dumb thought here. Melt a little wax, use a q tip to fill the hole, then cold work the ornament, when done, put the ornament upside down in an annealer and bring it up till the wax melts out.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:21 PM
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Are they clear? How much? Email me.... info@rosetreegallery.com... thanks


Iíll see if heís into it. I think heíll give $6 per ornament but he needs 100s. Yes clear 3.5 inch.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:22 PM
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Have had this problem in the past as well. it got better when we waited a little longer to put the hook on but always a little bit in there. I think the vent under the hook is the way to go.


Interesting. I do throw the hook on ASAP, because, well, you don’t want it to crack. I cant make anymore because I just put in antwo week notice. He can either keep the commission where its at (where management is not at all interested in fixing snything) hire me to rent some time somewhere else, or pass it to Mark if he wants it.

Google Hawks Crystal Tiffin, ohio. His work is great. His usual blower said her wrists hurt. He’s needing these things pretty bad.

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Old 11-30-2017, 06:00 PM
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Interesting. I do throw the hook on ASAP, because, well, you donít want it to crack. I cant make anymore because I just put in antwo week notice. He can either keep the commission where its at (where management is not at all interested in fixing snything) hire me to rent some time somewhere else, or pass it to Mark if he wants it.

Google Hawks Crystal Tiffin, ohio. His work is great. His usual blower said her wrists hurt. Heís needing these things pretty bad.
Let me know if you can't find a place to rent. How thick do these need to be? Is he sandblasting on them, or just etch cream?
I can fit them in my schedule, a long as he doesn't need them tomorrow
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Old 11-30-2017, 09:13 PM
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That’s a good idea Art but it probably won’t happen. Not where i’m workonh Anyway. The annealers do what they do and i have no say in it. I cant even get them to stop pulling out work hot.I’d rather just find someone that the glass gods arent putting water in their ornaments
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Iíve been thinking a lot about this and I think that water in ornaments has to do with how hot your pipe is when you blow them up.

Mark, how host do your pipes get before you gather on them?
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:22 AM
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Iíve been thinking a lot about this and I think that water in ornaments has to do with how hot your pipe is when you blow them up.

Mark, how host do your pipes get before you gather on them?
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:34 AM
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They’re normal temperature. Hot stick dunk in water nice dull red. The glass gods are just punishing me for ever arguing with pete about politics. I gave Mark the guy’s contact and hopefully they’ll figure something out because i’m about to move
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Old 12-01-2017, 08:48 AM
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Quite frequently, Glass objects to efficiency. Simply put, it never fares well being hurried. If you actually think about it and you do believe it's moisture inside the ornament, then any ornament set down at around 1150-1200F is not going to have moisture in it for long. If you simply waited a bit before attaching the hanger, it's likely that the moisture in the thing has completely evaporated.
If you think that makes for an issue with strain getting in the thing, I can see that and would set the piece in a little hot box before attaching the handle part.

I actually imagine that the piece is being knocked off at a bad temperature and is likely too cold if it indeed is moisture as the stuff should evaporate readily if hot enough.

Speed in glass almost never pays off without issues.

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Old 12-01-2017, 10:54 AM
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It's always a party down here!
I have not made clear ornaments in a while, we will see today if condensation is a problem..... p.s. it is not too humid today, if that was a factor...
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Old 12-01-2017, 12:35 PM
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I’m beginning to think its an annealing issue. These just crash down. Ouside and inside temps of sphere would be different when subjected back to normal atmosphere ?

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Old 12-01-2017, 12:42 PM
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I recall Gabbert (read Fenton) cullet having some serious issues with stability, having been refired and reworked a few times over before finding it's way into those sonotubes and marketed to the quick color pot crowd. Odds are you've been melting you System in the same furnace.
Pete was right the first time, it's soda bloom.
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Miles, I was going to ask if you might quench your pipe in water before your gather. When I've done that, I've often gotten my entire pipe very hot, which would seem to suggest that I got water up the pipe - and that's even when I've been blowing into it while it's in the water. I just avoid water completely with the pipe, and have never had a problem with condensation. And I also use Spectrum nuggets.

I know it seems that the heat should easily drive the moisture out of the pipe, but how else would you explain the entire length of the pipe staying hot for a prolonged time?

At least avoiding the water would be a real easy thing to try.
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Steam is an incredibly efficient way for water to convert to a hot gaseous state and the steel is perfect for absorbing and moving it. The expansion rate is around 270 to 1 . That sort of stuff happens more frequently if your pipe has a pinhole leak in it.
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