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Old 07-26-2018, 04:36 PM
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while it's true that the world is rushing to get Lithium out of the Ground, I would expect the price to keep increasing unless there was some overwhelming motherlode of it in a soybean field in Iowa. There is one in Afghanistan which might explain lot.
As to my glass, I wouldn't expect any rush to make it even with lithium at $20,000 bucks a ton, about 100 times the price of borax. But it has its admirers.
Richards situation is not dissimilar to the one here in NH. They warehouse SP87 but only with Erbium in it. They don't stock either snowflake or plain.
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Old 07-26-2018, 04:47 PM
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Thanks Richard...The "melts like, works like, anneals like" is very helpful and encouraging. I'm doing some mold-based stuff and it will be interesting to see how it sets up.
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Richards situation is not dissimilar to the one here in NH. They warehouse SP87 but only with Erbium in it. They don't stock either snowflake or plain.
I just found out recently when ordering my first ton of SP87 in about a year that they stopped warehousing in Claremont, NH, if that's what you're speaking of Pete. Candy at SP said costs for that were getting too high and didn't make sense for them anymore.
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Old 07-26-2018, 06:58 PM
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Ah, I miss so much. Thank You!
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I'm a Yes for sure. I was melting SP cullet before they stopped production. I found it to be great glass. super nice to be able to top off the tank at the end of the day and have it ready by morning rather then having to schedule batching days. I switched to Crystilica and that was a mess. My new place will be running a 300# Hub furnace instead of the 130# electroglass setup we had. I look forward to melting SP again either batch or nuggets/squiggles if available.
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If anyone decides to batch their own .I still have access to the sodium silicate powder .The 1st super sack 1500 lbs is free both shipping and material. If it works for you then they just want you to cover the shipping cost later on. They get a very good rate so shipping is not outrageous . I can give you my recipe or if you have one you are happy with the sodium silicate just replaces all of your soda ash and most of your silica, all of your other chemicals stay the same.I have lowered the lithium carb. to 10 oz from 20 oz and have been very happy with it .There are now 5 other glass artist batching with it and they seem to be happy to be rid of the uncertainty of other peoples batch or nuggets.
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Old 07-26-2018, 09:24 PM
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Just another thought,
$1.50 a pound is reasonable to me (I would like to pay less but)
The benefit of not having to run my furnace up to a 2350 charge cycle once a week combined with not losing a day of work/producing due to batching has a larger monetary impact on my bottom line then the cost of the glass. Whats the price of SP 87 batch right now? Add to that the cost in fuel to melt it and I don't think the cost difference is really anything to talk about.
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Yes (although our "soon to be" studio will be a small operation). That price point for a high quality cullet seems worth the trade offs of melting batch for us.
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Just another thought,
$1.50 a pound is reasonable to me (I would like to pay less but)
The benefit of not having to run my furnace up to a 2350 charge cycle once a week combined with not losing a day of work/producing due to batching has a larger monetary impact on my bottom line then the cost of the glass. Whats the price of SP 87 batch right now? Add to that the cost in fuel to melt it and I don't think the cost difference is really anything to talk about.
I agree with you on cost breakdown.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:21 PM
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not to mention the assault from the boron. Think back on the '73 oil embargo. We're really in a game change.
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