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Michael, don't forget to check with others that are hobbyists. With all due respect to Pete, he has never operated as a hobbyist, "weekend warrior" sort of glass operation. I have done both but never felt it necessary to go as large as he and others have. Some things do not have to be so large if you are using them on a off again, on again basis. Just my $.02 worth.
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my reply to that is multi- fold. The majority of your cost in doing this comes when you're melting glass, not maintaining a fixed temperature such as idle or daily working temp. If you use a small pot ( 40 lbs), it will go fast and the last 1.5 inches will not really be usable as you're scraping the floor. It takes a good deal of time to refill and fine out that amount of glass. It is always made easier if you tool up for what you are making and I would heartily agree with that notion.

I do sell a lot of pots to both hobby people and people who make their livings doing this. The professionals usually choose the 24 inch and we sell more of them than anything. Second choice is the 14.5 inch pot . Third is the 11.5 inch pot holding 38lbs. The boro guys usually order straight wall pots with odd shapes like 12x16 inch or the 7 inch pot which holds about 13 lbs.

My own furnace these days? Two 7 inch pots and a 14.5 inch pot. Time there was when I had 2 24 inch pots and 3 14.5 inch pots. Those days are gone. I'm no longer operating as a professional studio really. I would think I'm an extremely spoiled hobbyist. For the color classes we ran 14 pots all at once.

Certainly something I've ignored here is the invested pot issue. I don't know of a commercial electric unit that invests the pot and the reality is that turning it on and off freestanding is far more likely to invite pot failure. Getting a failure with all those elements exposed is an expensive and also dangerous proposal since hot glass conducts electricity. That would be an advantage of the dragon Kiln certainly but then you're back to gas. I love my little gas furnace. The sound of a glassworks running with combustion is irreplaceable. I really hate it when studios are turned off. Something's just not right.
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"I don't know of a commercial electric unit that invests the pot and the reality is that turning it on and off freestanding is far more likely to invite pot failure."

Not that I use their furnaces anymore, but Denver has an invested pot....
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whenever I think of those, I recall "The Corn Popper" from "Arrested development".
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whenever I think of those, I recall "The Corn Popper" from "Arrested development".
They served their purpose
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They served their purpose
How many hundred have they made? I know it was a lot. Probably thousands by this time. They were the onlyelectric "show"in town when they started many years ago. They got a lot of people started. plug it in and go. That's the younger generation.
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