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Old 12-21-2020, 02:31 AM
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CBS Sunday Morning: Glass + Etsy

The whole segment is worth watching but the Matthew Cummings (Pretentious Glass & Beer Co.) part starts at 5:25. Interesting, how he switched from starving artist to profitable producer.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/etsy-c...-the-millions/
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Whenever someone compares glassblowing to a dance (7:25), I throw up in my mouth a little bit. I don't know why. It's just a conditioned response at this point.
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Old 12-21-2020, 03:28 PM
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Me, too, Scott.
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The only time I've ever experienced that was doing a demo on Canyon road in the old shop with Danny Blade. We worked absolutely seamlessly and it involved some very fast moves making one of her big leaves. That was memorable.

Otherwise, I think of it as good balancing.
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Starving artist?? Yeah, right.
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My daughters are dancers. I see a lot of similarities. Timing is everything. Choreography is everything. Working with others. muscle control, balance, repetition, practice. Low pay.
Yes, 'glassblowing is like dance' is a clicheī and I get tired of hearing it but in this case i believe it is true.
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I have been using that cliche' for over 40 years. I'm too set in my ways to change it now.... sorry to make you throw up in your mouth
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Break dancing, right?
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Break dancing, right?
Ha ha, oh don't say that! One of my daughters just laid a motorcycle over on her foot and can't dance for 3 months. Devastating.
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Whenever someone compares glassblowing to a dance (7:25), I throw up in my mouth a little bit. I don't know why. It's just a conditioned response at this point.
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Thereís choreography. I donít tell anyone that itís a dance but it is a rehearsed repetitive set of moves that you and maybe a partner do over and over.

Iíd think itís more of a ritual than a dance.
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My teacher back at the University of Tulsa says he did his master's thesis on the choreography of glassblowing, but he had second thoughts and stole all the copies from the library. He's done some amazing work, but that must not have been his proudest
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Thereís choreography. I donít tell anyone that itís a dance but it is a rehearsed repetitive set of moves that you and maybe a partner do over and over.

Iíd think itís more of a ritual than a dance.
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Toledo Museum put out a video that's about 45 minutes long back in the 70s named the "Dance of Fire" about the history of glassblowing in the US through the start of the studio movement. I still have a copy somewhere on VHS that I've been meaning to convert to digital.
When you see a 15 person shop making some very involved pieces in a factory, it can resemble a "dance" as everyone has to know their place and their timing is crucial. Fenton and others would sometimes have as many as 20 people in a "shop" making production. I have a friend who was part of that and there was little room for error and timing was everything. Normal shops were 5 or 6 depending on whether they were considered "German" or "American". The unions were very critical of how this all came together.
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I think my neighbor has nailed it. I mentioned I was trying to come up with an alternative to "dance" as a metaphor for glassblowing, and she said she agreed with the dance comparison the first few times she saw a large shop in action. But, she came to the conclusion that a closer parallel would be those huge marketplace clocks one sees throughout Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. Every hour on the hour characters emerge, do their (mechanically) pre-programmed motions, then return to their places until the next hour chimes.

She said dance involves personal expression in movement, even when strictly choreographed, and few gaffers or designers would welcome an assistant "getting creative" on the job, especially if the job is production.

The problem, of course, is the awkwardness of, "Glassblowing is like one of those mechanical human cuckoo clocks you see in Europe."

Best to stick with "dance," but I'm keeping the other handy for just the right moment.
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