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Old 04-18-2018, 07:47 PM
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So no one asked which means I alone donít understand...

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Get him to show you the wrist action on properly throwing a pair of dull diamond shears.

What you talking about?
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:44 AM
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It'sa rare moment of Henry on film.
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Old 04-19-2018, 07:27 AM
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Yes. Henry is rare.
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I remember a rather unfortunate diamond shear incident where pete burned th crap out of his hand. He handled it like a champ. No throwing. No violence. Maybe a little grumbling.
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not at all the same. This little vignette was really funny, for a lifetime.
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Old 04-19-2018, 10:18 AM
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not at all the same. This little vignette was really funny, for a lifetime.
Is it on YouTube ?!
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:11 PM
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a couple of other good books: Common Glass Practice by Scholes and American Glass by McKearin. I may be selling my copy of Common Glass Practice if anyone is interested.
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:00 PM
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OK, I'm aware of Modern Glass Practice... Common?

I'm not sure what anyone wants at this point. Based on views, Not much.

The holes that could be filled in around my synopsis would fill several books. Just Listing the Fulbrighters who went to Murano and following their trails would be substantial.
The studios that planted their flags in the ACC, Rosen, and Rothbard would be substantial.
The introduction of Blue Collar Murano glassworkers and what that affected.
( Lino had never been on an airplane before coming here)

Billy Morris and his influence.

The influence of Pilchuck and Penland
The colonies
Seattle
San Francisco
Santa Fe
Boulder

Then you get the great stories from everyone.
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Old 04-19-2018, 06:37 PM
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sorry, should have been Modern Glass Practice, just another senior moment for me.
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Old 04-20-2018, 07:50 AM
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sorry, should have been Modern Glass Practice, just another senior moment for me.
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Indeed but I was no longer sure after the Labino reference.

Modern Glass practice is not really a history book on glass at all but is an excellent reference book on process. It's really a compilation of papers from the Society as is Weyl. It should be in anyone's library. My copy has the cover coming off.
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Old 04-20-2018, 08:23 AM
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American Glass is truly a history book, 600 pages and deals with some of the earliest glass production in the US. It was published in 1941and has lots of info on the 17th-18th centuries through the glasshouses of the 19th century. It has lots of illustrations of many pressed ware patterns and some illustration of early pressing procedures.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:54 AM
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Indeed, I have that book. Here's some others:

Two hundred years of American Blown Glass McKearin 1949

Old Glass Moore 1924

American Glass "Antiques reprints from 1924 on"

Illustrated Guide to American Glass Papert 1970

Lost Treasures of Louis Comfort Tiffany McKean 1971

Glass of Frederick Carder Gardner 1971

Art of French Glass Dermant date unsure

Glass of Desiree Christian Traub 1978

Art and Technique of Pate de Verre Tokyo Glass Art Institute

Investing in Georgian Glass Lloyd 1969

Hot Glass Information Exchange Igneous Glass reprint

Antonio Neri ( hard to find)

You would have to travel to the Rakow to make a copy of Neri. I have the one copy of HGIE I would sell. It's the reprint. $40 bucks. The art of French Glass I have two copies of and would sell one. Both are in excellent condition $75.00 If you make stems and like engraving, Investing in Georgian glass is like having died and gone to Heaven. Find the Gardner book on Carder. It has the back filled with drawings of every Piece Carder ever made. Desiree Christian made the best of Galle's work.

Then of course there are the technical books. Lots of them. I have to drop dead to see them leave.
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CMOG makes the Neri (in the first English translation - eff's for esses, etc.) available at no charge online as a downloadable PDF.

https://www.cmog.org/sites/default/f...EF695C01AE.pdf
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Old 04-20-2018, 02:46 PM
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I got lucky on Neri. They printed the entire book for me while I was there. Even used their own paper, It took about a ream. Neri most certainly is not about the history of glass in America.
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What is polverine? Great book Pete. Did you use it to help make you glass? In your role as conciator.
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I kinda view the West Coast as almost a separate branch on a misshapen tree. When we shut down our studio in the 80's there were at least 6 colleges offering glass classes within a half-hour drive. We were down the street from Knot's Berry Farm. All the studios were in contact with one-another. We had Marvin, Marquis, Correia, Jim Lundberg, and others do demos in our studio for a few bucks, pizza & beer. Usually lots of beer. My guys left and went to Correia & Abelman. CSULB (where I learned) closed down under a new dean who decided that glass was not art and wanted the money to go elsewhere. One by one the schools shut down and studios couldn't produce enough to stay in business. Cal State Fullerton is still teaching glass. I don't think that anyone is batching from scratch. My Weyl with post-its sits on a shelf and my backup copy collects dust. One of these days I may put it on EBay. History and tradition are a funny thing. If you loose sight of them you end up wandering blindly into the future. I have many fond memories of that time, and I think that people like Pete & Henry & Peiser et. al. should write that book. Just my 2c...
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Old 04-21-2018, 08:07 AM
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That's a great overview of the earlier '80's there Brian. It makes me think about the San Marcos program as well under Val. It also had me thinking about the day Marquis took a sledgehammer to the tooling at UCLA. Most of those california independents were good at marketing and overall, if your work could stand up , it was salable. The Schools really hated that but by the '80's it was recognized as something that wasn't going away. But those California small shops were very good at what they were doing. I can't quite recall when Marvin got canned at Berkeley and wound up at CCAC. The '90's were very hard on the UC system financially. Reagan had wrecked the budgets and the legislature was controlled by the GOP refusing any taxation. By the '90's the schools were no longer driving any of the innovation
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What is this??
Marquis took a sledgehammer to the tooling at UCLA.
Did he beat up the tools?
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There are many wild stories of the early days. One of the best was when one individual played some bowling games with the artists glass collection at Penland and ultimately burnt down the studio.
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What is polverine? Great book Pete. Did you use it to help make you glass? In your role as conciator.
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I had to look up "conciator". Thanks, Franklin
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Polverine- Potash. Syrian origin. Conciator I had not heard of but it's the person who decides what goes into a glass body.
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Coming soon from Marvel Comics: "Polverine vs. Conciator"
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Henry Halem studio glass history lecture

We had the opportunity to host the Glass Olympics in Sept. 2016 at Cleveland Institute of Art. We were honored to also have Henry Halem come and speak about the history of the studio movement in America. Here is the video for it....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkgF...ature=youtu.be.





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