Roll-up technique questions

[Dave Bross]

If you use the Spectrum one thing you don't want to do is to get it too thin. The color gets very dull.

Example: pulling bead cane, if I pick it up as cane rollup then it will stretch to any length and look good due to thickness of canes. If I just pick up the flat pieces almost any stretch at all makes for dull color.

[Kenny Pieper]

Originally Posted by David Patchen

That's a new technique for applying kiln wash, interesting. I generally get the plates warm enough so that when I brush the wash on the water quickly steams off. I like doing it this way because I can do a number of coats and the plate dries almost immedietly in between coats. I can apply the wash a bit thinner in a number of even layers this way and the shelf never gets saturated, so I don't need to dry it out for hours. (I've found if you stick a shelf with even a tiny bit of moisture in the GH it can crack). I also run my hand across the surface and blow off the dust right after a wash so the loosest stuff blows off vs. sticking to my glass.

Kenny, if you're ever back in N Cal I want some reticello coaching. Been doing a few and hard to get them as perfect as yours

well I try to stress that there are many ways to do something and I am not one to know (the right way). I guess this is the way I was shown years ago and it works well for me. I also get years of use from a single coating of wash on a shelf. Some times doing 10 to 12 pickups a day. But then canes dont need to get as hot or have as many heats as other types of pickups.


David I will be coming to San Francisco in sep to do some backpacking in the sierras with my old buds. I wont have a lot of extra time but maybe I will try to drop by the Public Glass to check it out. It was set up after I moved away.

[David Patchen]

Thanks re: the piece in the Pismo ad. I was pretty happy with it as well. No kiln wash

And Franklin *can* probably smell me from SF based on how/too much garlic I loaded onto my pizza last night.

[Franklin Sankar]

Dave how do you usually make your canes from sheet spectrum?
Franklin

[David Patchen]

I make all cane from rod color. The veiled cane is enamel white with a transparent color over it, two gathers of clear and pull. White twisty cane is all Gaffer dura white.

[Ben Solwitz]

Have you tried out any of the other dura colors yet? I pulled some twisty cane out of the green about a week ago that came out pretty cool.

[Scott Young]

I've tried all the dura colors. Yellow is not very vibrant, but the only one I don't like is black (seems like dark grey to me) Your mileage may vary...

[Ben Solwitz]

Yeah some people were talking about the black here a few weeks ago, it's supposed to strike darker but the consensus was that it's more of a dark slate grey.

[Mike Firth]

Spectrum makes a System 96 cullet, or they used to.
I use Paragon's Glass Separator which comes dry and makes a creamy liquid. There directions for application http://www.paragonweb.com/faqinfo.cfm?faqid=184
work very well for me. Although not in this document and earlier version specifically said that when brushing with a fingertip to smooth, leave dust on the surface. Unless I am really pushing it on a bent clay mold I do not get sticking and when it does stick, a soaking in water and a stiff brush take it off.