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Old 08-22-2018, 08:38 PM
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Earthquake safety shutdown

We are expecting a huge earthquake sometime in the future. The soothsayer says so.
From the experience yesterday when it comes and if my furnace is on ,the shaking or something falling on it can crack the pot or open the hot chamber and start a fire. I was thinking about a earthquake detector that will trip the furnace contactor and the gas line valve. My studio is in a metal shed but things can still happen.
Anyone using an earthquake detector? What?
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:21 AM
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get a very large flock of birds, 5-10 thousand . They seem to be able to sense an earthquake coming about three seconds before it happens. They suddenly take flight. I'm sure this will be helpful.

It is the case that a number of states here don't allow wheels on equipment for this very reason. If it's that bad, your pot and glass will be the least of your problems. Fire for basic bad housekeeping or code violation reasons is your real every day threat.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:15 AM
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Here’s your trini style earth quake shut down safety system. Buy a normally closed solenoid valve for your gas line and a light switch wired in series with it. Then drill a small hole in the toggle of the switch to tie some string. Tie a rock to the end of the string and place it hanging off the edge of a shelf above the switch with a sign next to it that says “don’t be touchin dis rock mon!”

If there is another earthquake, the rock will fall and pull the switch which will turn off your gas.
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Old 08-23-2018, 08:55 AM
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... just before the furnace pulls all the piping off the wall.
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:11 AM
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... just before the furnace pulls all the piping off the wall.
Yes, but the gas will be shut off. 😂
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Old 08-23-2018, 09:32 AM
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We have an earthquake shutoff valve at the gas meter. It closes when it is moved. I imagine one could be put on a propane system before it enters the building as well.
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Franklin,

Do you think that you might be able to round up 5000 scarlet ibises for the flock? If not, perhaps it would be easier to go caving and convince the oilbirds to take their place.
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Old 08-23-2018, 12:34 PM
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I think the valve is lower maintenance than the birds but I do like the birds better except of all that regular clean up.
Is that Code Steve?
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Old 08-23-2018, 03:33 PM
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My friend says he has the solution but is keeping it a secret to sell it and make millions.
I am not interested in saving the pot or glass but wanted to prevent a fire or explosion. I guess that is not feasible. I heard that coral snakes don't bite before an earthquake. Scarlet ibis is a protected bird. Eben you need some coco.
Steven any specs on the shut of valve.
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Old 08-23-2018, 03:56 PM
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Here's link on the valve type franklin

https://www.google.com/search?q=eart...480j0j4&source
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Thanks Pete. I don't want to be the first to test a devices on the Internet without a recomendation. The electrical vibrator may be easier to find.
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Opps Vibration sensor for electrical supply.
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Old 08-23-2018, 07:01 PM
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you're not the first. It's a link to a supplier.
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No, insurance policy.
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Old 08-24-2018, 10:04 AM
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Yes insurance but not for earthquake. I am off to find a stone.
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Old 08-24-2018, 11:14 AM
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I actually like the stone idea. It has the added benefit of shutting the gas off if the electricity goes out. We have a solenoid valve already installed, I might hook it up to a rock just to see what the safety inspector says.
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I view the requirement as unusual based on my experience with insurance companies although I did have a friend in that line back in Eldorado who did estimates for widespread stuff. He looked at the world as over or underinsured.

Usually, the policy company was profoundly lazy about it, relying on ISO ratings and then just selling policies based in blanket assumption like no commercial/residential combos. If anyone was going to push a valve of this nature- which I think to be a good idea, it would be the building code guys but they always got a boatload of resistance from the building community adding on expense. The, you had the guys who wanted their products codified- like aluminum wiring and that financial pressure was there as well constantly at the national level. I always looked at buildings as being sold by the pound, not the square foot since shipping the parts is what cost so much. It certainly drove the price of adobe houses up dramatically.
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Thanks Pete. I don't want to be the first to test a devices on the Internet without a recomendation. The electrical vibrator may be easier to find.
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This is installed at a university. All the meters on campus were retrofitted with the valves about 8 years ago. I would imagine negotiations for institutional insurance are pretty complex.

It has only closed once when someone gave it a good shove to see if it worked.
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As far as piping being torn off the wall by moving equipment, you can use a hose connector between the wall and the burner. MB Strugis makes them, apparently for gas powered generators. https://mbsturgis.com/standby-genera...connector.html They are way easier to plumb and give some lee way if you bump your equipment.
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I think the valve is lower maintenance than the birds but I do like the birds better except of all that regular clean up.
Is that Code Steve?
I am not in code enforcement but I sure see a lot of these in ew construction for public buildings and multiple occupancy.
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As far as piping being torn off the wall by moving equipment, you can use a hose connector between the wall and the burner. MB Strugis makes them, apparently for gas powered generators. https://mbsturgis.com/standby-genera...connector.html They are way easier to plumb and give some lee way if you bump your equipment.
I have a restaurant-style quick connect on mine. Handy.
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Old 08-24-2018, 06:47 PM
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It's handy until the thing rolls across the room and goes through a bunch of ware racks at 2200F. That happened in Oakland.
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She's chained to the wall. And no earthquakes down here.
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