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Old 04-11-2018, 09:18 AM
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Rusty tools

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I've been out of the shop for almost 6 years now, but my kid is going off to college soon, so I decided that stepping back into the Hot Shop would keep the boredom drinking at bay. I opened up my old tool bag last night and, alas, rusty tools. Jacks, shears, puffers, parchioffis, everything has rust on it. Strangely the Gott Steamer Pad in its sealed bag, was in great shape, still moist, no degradation to the fabric, and it doesn't stink. 5 years untouched.

After lashing me, can you recommend the best way to clean up all these tools?

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Old 04-11-2018, 09:30 AM
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Very basic.....wire brush on a drill. WD40 on handles.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:38 AM
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I use a wire brush on a bench grinder. HF has a nice 8" soft wire wheel. Wear glasses as the little wires love to fly out of those cheap wheels. Most glass tools are built from decent steel and even if they are covered in surface rust pitting is rarely seen more of a patina imo. I don't bother cleaning handles or back of shears.
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:00 AM
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Excellent. Thanks. I was envisioning completely chewing up my hands with scotch brite.
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:00 AM
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It's too late now, but I use gun blue on all tool surfaces except blade cutting edges. Helps reduce rust while also looking sharp! I do this right after a thorough tool cleaning.
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Old 04-11-2018, 11:17 AM
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I once heard of someone putting all their rusty tools in the sand blaster. Don’t do that. I use a wire wheel on a bench grinder and butchers wax on jack handles.
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Old 04-11-2018, 12:50 PM
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If you don't have a bench grinder, you can put your drill with the wire brush in a vise and hold your tools to that...
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Old 04-11-2018, 01:41 PM
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It's OK to do boredom drinking while you clean the tools though. Probably better.
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I have a 4-pack of the new FC Cincinnati Blood Orange IPA all lined up...
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well, either you drink way too slowly or the rust isn't bad at all.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:19 PM
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If you don't have a bench grinder, you can put your drill with the wire brush in a vise and hold your tools to that...
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On those really rare occasions where something has gone badly wrong with my jacks, I clean them up on the 106 belts. I hate doing it but it certainly works to a high polish.Then they need to be re waxed and blackened. Handle interiors do well sandblasted from a distance and then oiled. Cover the blades.
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Old 04-11-2018, 02:53 PM
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I consider a wire wheel be it a bench grinder or hand grinder to be one of the most dangerous tools in the shop. I have seen more then one person wind themselves up with serious injury. Maybe save the beer for a celebration after the job tie hair up watch loose clothing and don't wear gloves. If you happen to touch the wire wheel on the bench grinder with your hand it won't take your skin off not as bad as it looks.
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Old 04-11-2018, 03:18 PM
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I agree. Open spindles are really dangerous. My crusher would take your arm off and never slow down.
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I recently retired from teaching, and decided it was time to see if I could still blow glass. I pulled out my old tool chest and took out my tools that had not seen daylight since the 1980’s. No rust on anything. I had waxed and oiled (WD-40) everything so all I needed was to lightly wipe everything off. I would recommend that you use steel wool & oil/WD on your jacks & hand tools instead of wire wheels. It shouldn’t take long and not remove much material. If your tools are high quality, like Jim Moore’s, etc., I wouldn’t take a chance on damaging them with power tools. Mine are Putsch jacks and have seen a lot of use back in the day. They are still in great shape as I always used a lot of wax (homemade formula) and worked hot so there is not a lot of wear on them. BTW I had stored an greenwood avocado block in a Ziploc bag and it wasn’t rotted or stinky. I couldn’t use it at the time as it was so dry it floated… Just my 2c.
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Pete: My first studio partner's father lost his arm saving another man from going into a road chipper. He pulled him out but got his sleeve caught.
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:23 PM
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I have a video here of Mary Beth using our 16 inch skill saw which we used on beams doing joinery. Anytime anyone sees it they recoil in horror seeing her pony tail hanging down right by that monster blade. Nothing happened but it sure could have. I still have a terrible time seeing that video.
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(My) Peter suggested just soaking them in Coke.
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Do you need to watch out for metal filings getting mixed into the glass when using a crusher? Can they be removed with a magnet or just washed away?

I've considered making a ball mill to crush frit. A few old canon balls inside a 10" or 12" diameter cylinder with a big Baldor motor. I worked for a metal outfit that had a larger cylinder filled with steel shot for smoothing the surface of metal work. It was really big and REALLY loud when it started turning.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:04 PM
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My crusher from Braun once cost 2K. These days, more than 6K. The parts wear out constantly. and the issue is always about the fine grind at the end. Braun makes yet another crusher that does that in but I'm not in that market anymore. We may make some shims to bring the Archimedean wedge back into shape instead of digging into the guts of the tool. I just want powder but not for 7K.

Don't forget to protect your hearing. I didn't and at this point profoundly regret that. Without hearing aides, I can't hear much beyond an explosion. The microphones help but that ran another 6K.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:05 PM
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:29 PM
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the number one cause for rusty tools ( in my shop at least) is sweat that is left on the tools. Sweat makes metal rust like crazy.
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Old 04-11-2018, 06:58 PM
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Try using Ospho rust remover....works great and it’s EZ

. The most insane tool I have is an angle grinder with 2 King Arthur chainsaw discs
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My shop is a mile from the beach in Santa Cruz so rust is just a fact of life for me. I use green scotch brite pads to keep it at bay. Cleans right up in seconds.
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Old 04-12-2018, 03:35 AM
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In addition to cleaning and oiling tools, you can also keep them wrapped in newspaper. That works great for preventing rust. Maybe somebody can tell me why. Great for cleaning windows, storing vegetables, wrapping dirty diapers in and shaping hot glass, too.

I'm a mile or two from the ocean here and it's HOT and HUMID. Maybe I should start selling original salt art.
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